"I mean, that wasn't a Thanksgiving tradition, that was just a thing that happened," Kathy said with a shrug. "My mom harped on me for not trying hard enough to be pretty, my dad expected us to flatter and cater to him. Regular day that ended in -y, there."

Between Parent Weekends and staying with the Lis for a few days, Kathy figured Raven had seen it often enough to know what she meant.